1. There is no possibility of an objective moral law because there is no possibility of a moral lawgiver. Without God to give the moral law, there is no room for an objective moral law. The only possibilities of a moral law become subjective, and relativistic--which amounts to no moral law at all. But, this doesn't coincide with what we know of ourselves as people. People think in terms of antithesis (right and wrong, black and white, yes and no), and when people attempt to defend the position of relativism, they are forced to base their reasoning on antithesis. (e.g., Relativism is right, absolutism is wrong.)
2. Atheism offers no meaning for life. The atheist philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre understood that if finite man had no infinite reference point, then finite man has no meaning, and there is no consequence or meaning to anything he does. Life is, under this philosophy, "absurd." It has no meaning. Theism offers an anchor for finite man to compare his life, his actions, and their consequences to a constant, immutable source: God. God gives life meaning.
3. Atheism cannot explain the genesis of the Universe. To believe atheism is to believe that all we know: matter, energy, motion, everything came from nothing. Nothing means absolutely nothing. Nothingness. Something cannot come from nothing. This is a philosophical problem for atheism, and atheism has no answer for this. Even if Darwinism were true, that doesn't explain what caused Darwinism.
4. Atheism has no concept of divine retribution, or just desserts. As it happens sometimes, bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people. A theistic view allows that a wrongdoer will get his just desserts in the after-life. Atheism does not offer this.
5. If atheism is true, we have to explain how we as personal beings came from an impersonal Godless universe. Atheism has no coherent answer to this.
6. Atheism causes its leading advocates to viscerally hate a God they don't believe exists.
As Ravi Zacharias frequently propounds, only the Christian worldview sufficiently and coherently answers the questions of origin, condition, meaning, and destiny.
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"1. There is no possibility of an objective moral law"
ReplyDeleteAnd there is no possability for poetic Mathomatics
"because there is no possibility of a moral lawgiver."
Even if there was a "lawgiver" it would still be subjective because it's that guy's opinion
"Without God to give the moral law, there is no room for an objective moral law."
Or with God
"The only possibilities of a moral law become subjective, and relativistic--which amounts to no moral law at all."
You are forgetting actually having a concience. Or Dawkin's theories on the evolution of altruism.
"But, this doesn't coincide with what we know of ourselves as people. People think in terms of antithesis (right and wrong, black and white, yes and no), and when people attempt to defend the position of relativism,"
A theist once asked me "how is rape wrong in a moral relativistic framework?" You know your straw-man is REALLY bad when the Atheist is like "what's a moral relativistic framework?" And you actually find yourself explaining to them the thing you expected them to explain to you, and when you're done, they're like, "that sounds stupid".
You now know my opinion of "moral relativism", and indeed, all external sources of morality other than being human.
"they are forced to base their reasoning on antithesis. (e.g., Relativism is right, absolutism is wrong.)"
Is there a difference? I mean, they're both external and have nothing to do with actual human feelings.
meaning for life."
ReplyDeleteNOTHING does. We're getting into philosophical subjects people way smarter than you have failed to sort out.
The atheist philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre understood that if finite man had no infinite reference point, then finite man has no meaning, and there is no consequence or meaning to anything he does."
I thought he invented deontological ethics,
"Life is, under this philosophy, "absurd." It has no meaning.Theism offers an anchor for finite man to compare his life, his actions, and their consequences to a constant, immutable source: God. God gives life meaning."
In other words, you're a slave to your creator. I'd rather go full Frankenstein.
ReplyDelete"3. Atheism cannot explain the genesis of the Universe."
ATheism itself doesn't explain anything, you're thinking of Science. It's easy to get them confused in the same way it's easy to mix up "Christian" and "republican" but there is a difference.
"To believe atheism"
Atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. You just said "to believe a lack of belief", which is wierd.
"is to believe that all we know: matter, energy, motion, everything came from nothing."
That is bullshit. Both your claim and your claim that we claim that is complete and utter bullshit.
"Nothing means absolutely nothing."
Don't ELABORATE on your straw-man! It was already bullshit!
Nothingness. Something cannot come from nothing. This is a philosophical problem for atheism,"
No, it's an intellectual problem with your complete and utter ignorance of Science.
"and atheism has no answer for this."
"That's bullshit" is the answer.
"Even if Darwinism were true,"
Are you getting Evolution or the Big Bang wrong? AT LEAST be stupid about one thing at a time.
"that doesn't explain what caused Darwinism."
Mutation and genetics.
ReplyDelete"4. Atheism has no concept of divine retribution, or just desserts."
Divine? No. But treating people like shit will result in them treating you like shit.
"As it happens sometimes, bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people. A theistic view allows that a wrongdoer will get his just desserts in the after-life. Atheism does not offer this."
Nope, we would rather them be punished NOW, in REALITY. If you kill someone, they may or may not go to hell. Put them in jail, they WILL, in fact, unquestionably, be punished. Therefore, my belief system has a better justice system than yours.
"5. If atheism is true,"
ReplyDeleteAtheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods. You just said "if a lack of belief is true", which makes no sense.
"we have to explain how we as personal beings came from an impersonal Godless universe."
Science, duh.
"Atheism has no coherent answer to this."
Science you moron.
ReplyDelete"6. Atheism causes its leading advocates to viscerally hate a God they don't believe exists."
No, we hate YOU.
"As Ravi Zacharias frequently propounds, only the Christian worldview sufficiently and coherently answers the questions of origin, condition, meaning, and destiny."
Origins; abiogenesis.
Conditioning: lather, rinse and repeat.
Meaning: 42.
Destiny: death.
You're not very good at this.